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Old 12-02-2009, 05:59 PM
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With all the hating on shotty, im curious as to how jets fans themselves would call the offense in the remaining games this season. and believe me, im not defending shotty, he needs to go after this season, and we need someone likes weiss or martz to take over, and we need a qb coach with a good track record of helping young qb's.


So here is what i would do/change:


-Mark Sanchez will not throw a pass until the jets are at the 50 yard line or further, only exceptions come on a drive by drive basis depending on distance for the first down and field position. This minimizes any interception by making sure the opponent does not get the ball in jets territory, and if we cant get 20-30 yards without throwing down field with our 2nd ranked running game well then we must really stink.

-We never pass on first down, ever.

-Never do a pitch or toss to thomas jones, save those for shonn greene, let TJ run off tackle or up the middle.

-utilize tony richardson as a lead blocker more frequently, i feel like i never see him unless its at the goal line or short yardage situations.

-never call a play that involves a WR running a short route to the sideline, STOPPING, and turning around, sanchez has probably thrown 80% of his interceptions on these plays.

- Get woodhead in the game, teams have no film on the kid, he is the next chrebet/welker.

- go for it on 4th and short when inside the opponents 30, unless you have a chance to tie, go ahead, or cut the lead to one score when playing behind. I trust the defense enough to stop the other teams offense, if the get the ball at their 30 or inside it, if we can just convert one settled for field goal into a touchdown we would have one at least 3 more games this season.


Just some of my thoughts
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:36 PM
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I think they need to stay run heavy if the running game is doing well. So i would start off with two runs and if 3rd down was 4 or 5yards run it again. With third and 1 on first drive I would play action roll out deep throw to Edwards on crossing route. 3rd and long shot gun pass. If run game is working stay with it but mix it up better.
After that first drive of the game I think they need to mix up the downs they throw on, including first down. Play action is great if they think your running.
They need to get it to Cotchery or Edwards more.those guys haven't been getting many targets.
Greene needs more touches he looks explosive.
Most definitely go for it from like inside the 40, 4th and short.
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With all the hating on shotty, im curious as to how jets fans themselves would call the offense in the remaining games this season. and believe me, im not defending shotty, he needs to go after this season, and we need someone likes weiss or martz to take over, and we need a qb coach with a good track record of helping young qb's.


So here is what i would do/change:


-Mark Sanchez will not throw a pass until the jets are at the 50 yard line or further, only exceptions come on a drive by drive basis depending on distance for the first down and field position. This minimizes any interception by making sure the opponent does not get the ball in jets territory, and if we cant get 20-30 yards without throwing down field with our 2nd ranked running game well then we must really stink.

-We never pass on first down, ever.

-Never do a pitch or toss to thomas jones, save those for shonn greene, let TJ run off tackle or up the middle.

-utilize tony richardson as a lead blocker more frequently, i feel like i never see him unless its at the goal line or short yardage situations.

-never call a play that involves a WR running a short route to the sideline, STOPPING, and turning around, sanchez has probably thrown 80% of his interceptions on these plays.

- Get woodhead in the game, teams have no film on the kid, he is the next chrebet/welker.

- go for it on 4th and short when inside the opponents 30, unless you have a chance to tie, go ahead, or cut the lead to one score when playing behind. I trust the defense enough to stop the other teams offense, if the get the ball at their 30 or inside it, if we can just convert one settled for field goal into a touchdown we would have one at least 3 more games this season.


Just some of my thoughts
If Sanchez is only passing once we get to the 50 yard line, it will be easy for the opposing team to contemplate what plays we are going to use.

The same with never pass on 1st down. We will become to predictable. We have to change up our plays to keep the D on their toes.

A pitch to Jones, Greene, or Woodhead occasionally Could work.

If we are within the 30 yard line, 3 points do add up. The occasional going for it on 4th is OK.
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With all the hating on shotty, im curious as to how jets fans themselves would call the offense in the remaining games this season. and believe me, im not defending shotty, he needs to go after this season, and we need someone likes weiss or martz to take over, and we need a qb coach with a good track record of helping young qb's.


So here is what i would do/change:


-Mark Sanchez will not throw a pass until the jets are at the 50 yard line or further, only exceptions come on a drive by drive basis depending on distance for the first down and field position. This minimizes any interception by making sure the opponent does not get the ball in jets territory, and if we cant get 20-30 yards without throwing down field with our 2nd ranked running game well then we must really stink.

-We never pass on first down, ever.

-Never do a pitch or toss to thomas jones, save those for shonn greene, let TJ run off tackle or up the middle.

-utilize tony richardson as a lead blocker more frequently, i feel like i never see him unless its at the goal line or short yardage situations.

-never call a play that involves a WR running a short route to the sideline, STOPPING, and turning around, sanchez has probably thrown 80% of his interceptions on these plays.

- Get woodhead in the game, teams have no film on the kid, he is the next chrebet/welker.

- go for it on 4th and short when inside the opponents 30, unless you have a chance to tie, go ahead, or cut the lead to one score when playing behind. I trust the defense enough to stop the other teams offense, if the get the ball at their 30 or inside it, if we can just convert one settled for field goal into a touchdown we would have one at least 3 more games this season.


Just some of my thoughts
All sounds pretty predictable to me, and it would take about 2 quarters for everybody to start complainging that Schotty doesn't call the pass enough.

The Jets personnel may not be well suited for Schottenheimer's type of Offensive scheme, but I maintain that play calling, especially on offense, is highly over rated. The inability to execute on offense has been a far bigger issue than the plays that were called.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:42 AM
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Playcalling is far from overrated. Its what catches defenses off guard. Schotty had a great playcalling game against ST. Louis last year even though they sucked badly. That 4th and 1 playaction call worked beautifully, remember that. No need to argue, I know where most of us fans stand on that anyway.

What I would do is dependant on the opponent and their defense. Against Buffalo, I would stick to the run in all formations, heavy and spread. I would run and run some more and take time off the clock and get as many points as possible. If the game is tied or we are ahead , I'll take the FG anytime on 4th and inches or whatever. We usually play them to the wire so we;ll need all the points we can muster. I'll use the playaction on passing plays obviously because of the run heavy attitude. If we need to go for it on 4th and short, I wouldn't be opposed to playaction hitting the RB in the flat. I would try one reverse but not in our territory, at least past the 40. Then I'll even try a slip screen to Cotch or Edwards. Try to stay away from tosses, we don't have leon. Just run off tackle and up the gut.
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Playcalling is far from overrated. Its what catches defenses off guard. Schotty had a great playcalling game against ST. Louis last year even though they sucked badly. That 4th and 1 playaction call worked beautifully, remember that. No need to argue, I know where most of us fans stand on that anyway.

What I would do is dependant on the opponent and their defense. Against Buffalo, I would stick to the run in all formations, heavy and spread. I would run and run some more and take time off the clock and get as many points as possible. If the game is tied or we are ahead , I'll take the FG anytime on 4th and inches or whatever. We usually play them to the wire so we;ll need all the points we can muster. I'll use the playaction on passing plays obviously because of the run heavy attitude. If we need to go for it on 4th and short, I wouldn't be opposed to playaction hitting the RB in the flat. I would try one reverse but not in our territory, at least past the 40. Then I'll even try a slip screen to Cotch or Edwards. Try to stay away from tosses, we don't have leon. Just run off tackle and up the gut.
Sure, playcalling catches teams off guard and all that good stuff, and there are times where the right play call might win the game, but on the whole none of that matters if you can't execute, even when they know what's coming. Buffalo knows that The Jets are going to run up the middle all day, there's no play calling genious in that. If the Jets can do it, they win. Simple as that. If they can't, then all the other 'playcalling' goes to heck, no PA, pocket implodes.

As much as Schotty has made some questionable calls in a few games, I just don't see how any other dude calling the plays this season equals more wins.

"playcalling is the most overrated aspect of professional football" - Bill Parcells
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Sure, playcalling catches teams off guard and all that good stuff, and there are times where the right play call might win the game, but on the whole none of that matters if you can't execute, even when they know what's coming. Buffalo knows that The Jets are going to run up the middle all day, there's no play calling genious in that. If the Jets can do it, they win. Simple as that. If they can't, then all the other 'playcalling' goes to heck, no PA, pocket implodes.

As much as Schotty has made some questionable calls in a few games, I just don't see how any other dude calling the plays this season equals more wins.

"playcalling is the most overrated aspect of professional football" - Bill Parcells
I'm sure most would call the opposite of what Schotty calls if it doesn't work.
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I always liked the ball control offense. You'd like to mix it up between pass and run. As far as pass plays, shorter passes to all the receivers and backs. I'm not a fan of the long pass. The completion percentage is way too low, and it seems like a drive killer. Of course show it occasionally to keep the other guys honest. Keep the passes short, accurate and as Hank Stram used to say, " matriculate the ball down the field"
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if playcalling is so overrated why do we complain about shotty so much! think about that one haha
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if playcalling is so overrated why do we complain about shotty so much! think about that one haha
Cause we don't want to give up hope on our loud mouth and crying HC yet. Next year we'll hear about how he has to go.
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