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Old 03-26-2012, 10:33 AM
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national attention and public interest so that foaming at the mouth reactions are not left unchecked coming from the other side.

You do realize that there is ignorance and bias from the other side too don't you???

Unless you think everything in this story makes sense and adds up....
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:57 AM
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So far Sharpton is helping organize petitions for Zimmerman's arrest and an investigation--since a 911 call and conversations with a girl who was talking with the victim right before he was killed, and the police chief has since been forced to step down due to a mishandling of the investigation haved all happened


But I guess asking for Zimmerman's arrest and a proper investigation is biased and foaming at the mouth racism....
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:01 AM
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So far Sharpton is helping organize petitions for Zimmerman's arrest and an investigation--since a 911 call and converstaions with a girl who was talking with the victim right before he was killed, and the police chief has since been forced to step down due to a mishandling of the investigation haved all happened


But I guess asking for Zimmerman's arrest and a proper investigation is biased and foaming at the mouth racism....
The story already has national attention and public interest without Al. I'm pretty sure the matter is being investigated. If Zimmerman acted out of racial bias...he should defly be sent to prison. You seem to be assuming that I feel Zimmerman being arrested is wrong. What I think is that Rev Al can offer nothing positive to the matter. It's my opinion....keep in mind the Tawana Brawley case from yrs back where Al got involved with his self promoting ways and playing the racial card.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:06 AM
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We are all entitled to our own opinions, but all you have to do is read all the stories about this situation and it is clear what he is doing in this particular instance and what the police force is doing in that town or rather not doing.

And lastly, if you think the parents of Martin would have got the attention of influential people and have marches staged in Philly and New york by themselves...well thats your opinion but I don't think so.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:08 AM
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I just don't see many people talking about the race card being played by the police force in that Orlando town and I find it curious that people are commenting on that in regards to Al Sharpton but I don't see anything like that coming from him in this particular instance.

I just wish people would be fair and if you are going to call out something on one side then be consistent enought to call it out on the other side when it is obvioiusly there...
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:10 AM
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We are all entitled to our own opinions, but all you have to do is read all the stories about this situation and it is clear what he is doing in this particular instance and what the police force is doing in that town or rather not doing.

And lastly, if you think the parents of Martin would have got the attention of influential people and have marches staged in Philly and New york by themselves...well thats your opinion but I don't think so.
My opinion does nothing for the situation. I just don't agree with Al's agenda as it very often is race related. If this is a case of racial biased, Zimmerman should be punished more then if it were "just" a murder. If the local officials are dragging their because of race, they too should be charged.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:51 AM
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so what do we know? we know zimmerman chased after travis martin,we know that zimmerman was instructed to stop chasing by the 911 operator. we know that he ignored that order. we know that zimmerman refered to travis martin as a ing koon. we know that jeb bush & the co-sponser of the "stand your ground" law have both said that the law doesn't apply here. one even saying that zimmerman was the aggressor,and we know the sanford police department has had some let say shady problems in recent history. something stinks.
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so what do we know? we know zimmerman chased after travis martin,we know that zimmerman was instructed to stop chasing by the 911 operator. we know that he ignored that order. we know that zimmerman refered to travis martin as a ing koon. we know that jeb bush & the co-sponser of the "stand your ground" law have both said that the law doesn't apply here. one even saying that zimmerman was the aggressor,and we know the sanford police department has had some let say shady problems in recent history. something stinks.
Eyewitnesses have said that Martin was the aggressor and have supported Zimmerman's claims and Zimmerman had a bloody lip and back of the head. Should he have gotten out of his SUV and followed Martin? No. Should Martin have attacked him first as witnesses have reported? No. That does not make this a race issue.

It doesn't matter what actually happened. People are convinced that this is a race issue, the media loves it, and nobody knows for a fact what happened yet they aren't letting that stop them from passing judgement as if Zimmerman could not possibly be innocent based on a couple 1 minute news pieces they saw on the incident.
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Hard to judge when you don't have all the facts. There are a couple things that are clear here though.

1) This is a tragic event regardless of how it ends up. If the shooting was not justified, we have a young man who is dead. If it was justified, we have another that has been persecuted by the public and the media. The chances of him having a 'normal' life going forward is slim.

2) Local law enforcement in most areas are not equipt to handle situations of this magnitude. In the past ten years, how many 'botched' investigations have we heard about in major cases. More than I can recall.

3) Tension is high when race is involved or even mentioned. Whether race played a role or not, if this is not handled properly going forward, the ramifications could be severe. Al Sharpton has the ability to play a major role here. He has the ability to keep things from boiling over if he wants to. Considering the Feds are involved now, I don't get a warm fuzzy about this one.

4) The Stand your Ground Law will come under fire. Changes will be made until the next time something happens. Maybe someone is shot while breaking into someone's home and the homeowner (shooter) will be prosecuted.

5) It is inevitable that gun laws will be brought up here if they haven't already. Carry and conceal laws will be discussed, etc, etc...

Lastly, all of the above will be used as some type of sound byte for the upcoming elections. When that happens, Martin and Zimmerman will no longer be the issue. Which will be sad.
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Eyewitnesses have said that Martin was the aggressor and have supported Zimmerman's claims and Zimmerman had a bloody lip and back of the head. Should he have gotten out of his SUV and followed Martin? No. Should Martin have attacked him first as witnesses have reported? No. That does not make this a race issue.
If you get out of your car, and chase me down. And you've got a gun, and my choices are out run your bullet, hit you with a bag of skittles, or smack you around with a can of iced tea, you better expect A can of Lipton upside the head.
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