With the 17th pick in the 2009 draft, the New York Jets select Brandon Pettigrew

[The Green Titan]

Stand your ground: With the 17th pick in the 2009 draft, the New York Jets select....OSU's TE Brandon Pettigrew.

Are you nuts: Okay, I know most of you are going to think that I am crazy, and I might but I'm going out on a limb here, and predicting that the Jets will once again go after a TE in this years draft. At first I thought it would be a great move, but only in the 2nd round. But I've changed my mind and expect the Jets will take him as their first pick (assuming he's not gone by the 17th).

My Logic: If you're taking the Cutler talk seriously, then forget about him. It's a ruse. The Jets are not interested in Cutler despite what you hear. It's going to be Clemens or Ratliff no matter what. And the position that will best compliment the rookie QB this season the most, could be the addition of TE Brandon Pettigrew. The Jets did well last year with the short passing game. And we intend to run the holy crap out of the ball this year. You can talk wide receiver all year long but a a TE with great blocking capabilities who competes as an excellent clutch short-area receiver gets the job.

The player: With out a doubt the best TE in the 2009 draft, Pettigrew is our guy. Having played for a team known more for its running game (OSU), why not play for a team that's getting ready to do the same thing. He has natural hands, is built for blocking and has outstanding athletic ability for this position. We are not going to be a passing offense. Expect more of last years short passing game mixed in with a lot of run plays. Pettigrew will compliment Clemens or Ratliff in a way that most other draft choices will not. He will definitely provide the new QB with more of a comfort zone.

The point of this thread: Put your money where your mouth is, and we'll check back in here after the draft to see who got it right. Don't name several players. Name your guy. Be a mock draft guru and tell me who you think the 17th pick will go to and why. I am a far cry from the experience that I see displayed on this forum some times, but I have great confidence in this selection. I first mentioned this player as a possibility back in a post on 02/20/2009, well before any news outlets were commenting on any interest in Pettigrew so I hope I get it right.

[DomUK]

i would like to see a WR in the first
but i reckon Ryans gonna go for Tyson Jackson if hes available at 17th.

Ellis, Jenkins, Jackson

........Brady

[greenandwhite]

I really hope we don't use our first rounder on another TE. Sure, Pettigrew might help in the run game, but he's a good receiving target. We already have Keller with that. Also, it's not like we're gonna line up in a two tight end formation that much. We should take Knowshon Moreno, Jeremy Maclin if available, or Tyson Jackson in the first.

[frogstomp]

It's hard to say, because Maclin will probably be gone by our pick, but not for sure.

There are too many variables. Pettigrew will definitely be available by 17, but I will be extremely mad if we take him. For the amount that we would actually have two TE's on the field it would be a HUGE luxury pick, one we can't afford with legitimate needs like WR and DE. A back-up nose tackle is also more important. If Pettigrew is available in the second it's hard to pass on that value, but in the first, shoving him behind a second year player who showed some really nice flashes in his rookie year doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Jets pick at 17: DHB.

Has all the tools you could ask for. Played in an offense that drastically limited his effectiveness, so don't bring up his stats. Solid hands, nothing to write home about, but they are definitely good enough for NFL.

Nevermind WR is our weakest position.

[jetsknicks1]

With the 17th selection in the 2009 NFL draft the New York Jets select Percy Harvin, wide receiver, The University of Florida.

[greenandwhite]

It's hard to say, because Maclin will probably be gone by our pick, but not for sure.

There are too many variables. Pettigrew will definitely be available by 17, but I will be extremely mad if we take him. For the amount that we would actually have two TE's on the field it would be a HUGE luxury pick, one we can't afford with legitimate needs like WR and DE. A back-up nose tackle is also more important. If Pettigrew is available in the second it's hard to pass on that value, but in the first, shoving him behind a second year player who showed some really nice flashes in his rookie year doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Jets pick at 17: DHB.

Has all the tools you could ask for. Played in an offense that drastically limited his effectiveness, so don't bring up his stats. Solid hands, nothing to write home about, but they are definitely good enough for NFL.

Nevermind WR is our weakest position.
DHB would be nice. He's got good height and speed. Can he have an immediate impact as a rookie?

I don't think a backup for Kris Jenkins would be a priority for our first round pick, especially since KJ has been working on conditioning this year. We should address that once our main needs are filled.

[unmasked]

My opinion is that I've seen the Jets draft too many TEs in the 1st round in my adult life. Please lets get him in the 2nd round if we really need him.

[Namath]

If Jeremy Maclin is available, I think the Jets have to take him. If not, I would be happy upgrading the DE position with either Tyson Jackson or Michael Johnson. DHB would be a good pick too. I really hope they don't pick a TE in the 1st round.

[greenandwhite]

If Jeremy Maclin is available, I think the Jets have to take him. If not, I would be happy upgrading the DE position with either Tyson Jackson or Michael Johnson. DHB would be a good pick too. I really hope they don't pick a TE in the 1st round.
Michael Johnson wouldn't be a DE in the 3-4. But I really like Maclin. He could be like Santana Moss.

[unmasked]

OK putting the money whre my fingers are I say if one of Sanchez, Freeman or Stafford are available we will trade the pick. Otherwise we will take a WR based on availability in this order: Maclin, DHB, Harvin.

[greenandwhite]

OK putting the money whre my fingers are I say if one of Sanchez, Freeman or Stafford are available we will trade the pick. Otherwise we will take a WR based on availability in this order: Maclin, DHB, Harvin.
I'm really liking the idea of swapping first rounders and getting an extra pick from the Bucs if they would want to move up for Freeman.

[wrestleroxs]

i am going to go way out on a limb.either Nate Swift,or Todd Peterson both WRs from Nebraska.

[jetsfan1115]

The Jets will draft Tyson Jackson with the 17th Pick.

[SackExchange]

I think they should draft Jets 337

[Jets337]

I think they should draft Jets 337

I go before the 17th pick. :D

[unmasked]

But which round?

[Jets337]

Probably the 8th.

[Dunnie]

I keep flip flopping all over the place on this pick. So I think that the best move would be to trade down and pick up another 3rd round pick. If not ...

1. Crabtree ... you simply cannot pass this guy up if he is on the board. I know, I know ... he is not a speedster ... but the guy is a WARRIOR. He has the Ryan attitude.

2. Darius-Heyward Bey

3. Percy Harvin

4. Tyson Jackson

[The Green Titan]

I'm surprised that no one is expecting the Jets to go with a TE in the first round. Now I admit I'm really going out on a limb because it is always a controversial selection with the first pick, but I think that I'm right because I've gotten away from the idea of having the type of offense that I think a lot of you are expecting. Initially I was thinking, deep threat receiver but the more I studied Ryan the more I realized that that is not his style of game. It's a ground pounding offense that will probably work well with some of what we did last year, the short passing game. Remember how successful that was until teams realised that that was what we were doing all of the time. And remember the calls to get Leon more involved. Well contrary to what some of you think, Leon has a new role this year, and you're going to see less of him in the return game where he has made his name and more in the run game where we'll get to see what he's like with a lot more carries. Anyhow, the short passing game will lend itself well to a TE who's well versed in blocking and Brandon Pettigrew is supposed to be that guy. He's also supposed to be a receiver who's excellent in the short passing game. I'm expecting a receiver in the second round but I'm expecting Pettigrew to go in the first round also and I'm still confident that it will be us.

[jetsmets]

I'd like Knowshon Moreno at 17. Also would like Tyson Jackson, Andre Smith, (Maclin/DHB)but I must admit something. TE is a bad choice in the 1st round and the Jets have a bad history in the draft period. Kyle Brady shoots into my head. If there was ever a year to select a TE it would be this one. Pettigrew has all the qualities in a star TE. The only problem is how many times will we line up in a 2 TE formation or sub Keller. If we traded down to accrue more picks, than Pettigrew wouldn't be bad after all if he is still there.

[jetsmets]

Oh I forgot to mention that I have Pettigrew going to the Bills in the 1st.

[jetsknicks1]

I go before the 17th pick. :D

We are in negotiations right now to move up.

[Jets337]

We are in negotiations right now to move up.

My contract demands are simple but not open for negotiation. BEER.

[The Green Titan]

We are in negotiations right now to move up.

My contract demands are simple but not open for negotiation. BEER.

When exactly did you all take it upon yourselves to start making decisions about MY team. I noticed Jetschris gave frogstomp a back up QB job. Poor old frogstomp is going to be disappointed to hear that it was an invalid contract. I might as well get this on the table right now. There are going to be some contract terminations in the next couple of days as I review the activities of the team members during my absence. If any team member would like to defend themselves I'm open to statements.

[frogstomp]

That's alright, the Texans offered me much better cash anyways.

Frogstomp to Andre allllll day long.

[The Green Titan]

That's alright, the Texans offered me much better cash anyways.

Frogstomp to Andre allllll day long.

That was a TO response if I've ever heard one :-)

[frogstomp]

*shrug*

Getchya popcorn ready.

http://blacksportsonline.com/index/terrell-owens-popcorn-dallas1.jpg

[The Green Titan]

*shrug*

Getchya popcorn ready.

http://blacksportsonline.com/index/terrell-owens-popcorn-dallas1.jpg

I don't care what they say about TO, that was funny. I would have cracked up if I was in the stands watching that :-) I go to a Dallas game every year and I'm usually 2 rows from the Cowboys bench, spitting distance:-) Anyhow, every game there are always people yelling at the players trying to get them to turn around and TO is the only one that will talk to the fans or pose for pictures. He seems like a nice guy even if he is a professional mess.

[jetsknicks1]

When exactly did you all take it upon yourselves to start making decisions about MY team. I noticed Jetschris gave frogstomp a back up QB job. Poor old frogstomp is going to be disappointed to hear that it was an invalid contract. I might as well get this on the table right now. There are going to be some contract terminations in the next couple of days as I review the activities of the team members during my absence. If any team member would like to defend themselves I'm open to statements.

Two kegs of ice cold beer are on the way.

[The Green Titan]

Two kegs of ice cold beer are on the way.

Did I mention some promotions were also on the table. After I've fired some people you can let me know which job you want. There might be something available with regard to taking care of the flight crew? There's also the GM position. I had to let Scooter go.

[jetsknicks1]

Did I mention some promotions were also on the table. After I've fired some people you can let me know which job you want. There might be something available with regard to taking care of the flight crew? There's also the GM position. I had to let Scooter go.

Beer and hot women!? I'll take it. Scooter can keep the GM spot, I'm pretty sure I'll have my hands full.

[bcr1]

i look at ny jets 17 pick is mr britt - then ny jets pick him and ny jets get 9 wrs

[The Green Titan]

Okay so I'm pushing the envelope again here with a little more talk about Pettigrew but I don't understand the comments being made by members which say we have Keller why do we need another TE? Huh???

Currently the Jets only have one TE on the roster. And after doing some research I've discovered that Schottenheimer likes to run two and three tight end sets. Apparently this is becoming a trend in the league as a whole. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers recently signed TE Ben Troupe for his catch passing abilities, and they signed TE John Gilmore for his blocking abilities. Finally they have an excellent two way player, TE Alex Smith, who's great at blocking and catching. What's their plan? Well it's the same strategy being employed by a lot more teams this season which allows your offense to employ the use of two and three tight end sets.

What have the Jets done to indicate a move in that direction. Apparently the Jets have been preparing back up defensive line man Kareem Brown for the move to offense, specifically the TE position, specifically as a blocking TE. That would leave Keller as the catching TE. And the two way player that would fit the scheme being employed by Tampa and other teams, the last piece of the puzzle. Well Brandon Pettigrew of course.

Do I have to explain the value of having a three TE system or does it kind of speak for it self. I think the benefits are pretty obvious and I see how this system benefits a rookie QB more. Especially one who's first job will be game management.

Other indicators that Pettigrew's looking like a first round selection for the Jets (if they can get to him first) - the fact that the Jets are trying to get WR Miles Austin from Dallas. If they acquire Austin, there's no way that the Jets pick a WR in the first, leaving DE and TE as the only remaining holes before depth concerns. And with all that the Jets have done for the defense in free agency, there's no way they ignore the offense yet again. The only other thing they might do with the first round pick - look at a running back OR, if they do not like what they are seeing from our QB's (of course they will never tell us that), go after a QB. But once again, my money is on Pettigrew.

[greenandwhite]

That may be true, but how often will the Jets use a two tight end formation? And I don't disagree with us adding another TE, I don't think we should use a first rounder on one. A second TE is not as important as some of our other needs. We could always pick up a TE later after addressing other problems.

[The Green Titan]

but how often will the Jets use a two tight end formation?


Your questions suggest that if the Jets went with Pettigrew that all other positions are ignored. As if all the other picks are useless. If they get Miles Austin, then a WR position is solved. If they get Pettigrew then a TE position is solved. They can use any of their remaining picks for a DE and the rest to address depth. As for using two tight end sets. When you announce to the world that you intend to run the ball, you have to create mismatches with your TE's and running these types of plays will help you do that. The Jets are not going to rely on Clemens or Ratliff to stretch the field with deep passes. They are going to foce them to manage the game with short plays like we did last year. For some reason everyone thinks that we are changing our offense. Ryan himself said that Shotty runs the offense and that he trusts him. The only thing Ryan said would be different is that we run it more. And seeing as how most of the changes we made this year have been to the defense, there has to be a reason the offense is almost exactly the same. It's because we're running the same type of offense as last year, the one that beat New England and the Titans. We're just adapting it to make it a safer type of offense for the QB.

[greenandwhite]

Well, I understand your logic, but is Pettigrew really much better than the other TE's in the draft? Isn't it possible that we could draft someone that is good enough in the third round or later? I don't see us taking Pettigrew anyway, he's had some alleged off-field problems and his workout may have moved him down on teams' lists. He'll probably go late first, early second round.

[actuarialism]

Stop drafting tight end... we cant use tight ends if we don't have options outside... arrrg

just remember we drafted kyle brady before warren sapp

[Jets337]

Stop drafting tight end... we cant use tight ends if we don't have options outside... arrrg

just remember we drafted kyle brady before warren sapp

yes, and we took Blair Thomas before Emmit Smith. If we're not planning on a long ball offense, a big tight end may be what the doctor ordered. Everyone says that Keller is never going to be that blocking tight end that is the position prototype.

[frogstomp]

yes, and we took Blair Thomas before Emmit Smith. If we're not planning on a long ball offense, a big tight end may be what the doctor ordered. Everyone says that Keller is never going to be that blocking tight end that is the position prototype.

Even if you don't run the long ball offense, you still need some type of player to stretch the defense so there is some running room.

Look at the Steelers. Santonio Holmes stretches the defense, Ward and Miller do the blocking. We have a Ward, we don't have a Holmes.

Do we need a TE? Yes, but not in the first round.

And Green Titan, why do we want an offense like the Bucs? They have an extremely mediocre offense and haven't done anything for years.

Regardless, good tight ends are easily found later in the draft. Probably easier than any other position. Add in the fact that we have a good #1 TE that we drafted in the first last year, and I don't see any reason for going TE in round 1. Does that mean we won't do it? No. But it simply does not make sense to me. I'm hoping so badly the Bills draft Pettigrew early.

[Jets337]

Even if you don't run the long ball offense, you still need some type of player to stretch the defense so there is some running room.

Look at the Steelers. Santonio Holmes stretches the defense, Ward and Miller do the blocking. We have a Ward, we don't have a Holmes.

Do we need a TE? Yes, but not in the first round.

And Green Titan, why do we want an offense like the Bucs? They have an extremely mediocre offense and haven't done anything for years.

Regardless, good tight ends are easily found later in the draft. Probably easier than any other position. Add in the fact that we have a good #1 TE that we drafted in the first last year, and I don't see any reason for going TE in round 1. Does that mean we won't do it? No. But it simply does not make sense to me. I'm hoping so badly the Bills draft Pettigrew early.

All your points are accurate. The question is does, Rex think he has that stretch the field threat with Clowney? So many on the board think we don't have a bonafide QB, but the coaching staff seems to think we do.

Keller to me, is a tight end in name only. He can't block worth a darn, but seems to have some special receiver skills. Thats why I wouldn't be surprised, like you, if they do go after Pettigrew if he's there. I think they will ultimately go after the best player on the board, as opposed to specific position need. But, who knows?

[frogstomp]

All your points are accurate. The question is does, Rex think he has that stretch the field threat with Clowney? So many on the board think we don't have a bonafide QB, but the coaching staff seems to think we do.

Keller to me, is a tight end in name only. He can't block worth a darn, but seems to have some special receiver skills. Thats why I wouldn't be surprised, like you, if they do go after Pettigrew if he's there. I think they will ultimately go after the best player on the board, as opposed to specific position need. But, who knows?

I think we have a better chance at teaching Keller how to block decently enough for him to play the position, than we do of having him be successful when constantly lined up against corners. He just doesn't have the speed. He needs the safety/linebacker match up to be truly productive, and the only way to really get that is to get him to become a mediocre blocker, which he definitely can be.

As for whether or not Clowney is a legitimate starting receiver, I've said my piece on that. I don't see it. He didn't produce in college, he wasn't highly touted coming out, had solid combine numbers but nothing great, has been cut TWICE, no one else was interested so he signed with us, etc. There is not a starter in the league who has gone through all of that, and become a truly productive starter. The fact that we are considering him SHOWS how desperate we are.

We can find our block-first TE in the late rounds, or even as an UDFA. I love the idea of drafting Quinn in the 6th. But, I just don't see TE IN GENERAL being a 1st round need, ever, never mind when it comes the year after drafting a first round TE, or on a year when we could use a WR, DE, or future franchise QB.

I will go so far as saying this:

I would rather have Josh Freeman on this team than Brandon Pettigrew.

*pukes*

[Jets337]

I think we have a better chance at teaching Keller how to block decently enough for him to play the position, than we do of having him be successful when constantly lined up against corners. He just doesn't have the speed. He needs the safety/linebacker match up to be truly productive, and the only way to really get that is to get him to become a mediocre blocker, which he definitely can be.

As for whether or not Clowney is a legitimate starting receiver, I've said my piece on that. I don't see it. He didn't produce in college, he wasn't highly touted coming out, had solid combine numbers but nothing great, has been cut TWICE, no one else was interested so he signed with us, etc. There is not a starter in the league who has gone through all of that, and become a truly productive starter. The fact that we are considering him SHOWS how desperate we are.

We can find our block-first TE in the late rounds, or even as an UDFA. I love the idea of drafting Quinn in the 6th. But, I just don't see TE IN GENERAL being a 1st round need, ever, never mind when it comes the year after drafting a first round TE, or on a year when we could use a WR, DE, or future franchise QB.

I will go so far as saying this:

I would rather have Josh Freeman on this team than Brandon Pettigrew.

*pukes*

Well I haven't seen anything to make me think that Clowney is the second coming either. But, he was injured much of last year. Would be nice to be in the Jets "war room", to get a real handle on what their thinking is. Some guys can be reborn in certain circumstances. Rich Gannon was a journeyman QB before landing in Oakland.

I'd like to think that Keller could become a decent blocker, but I don't know if he has the bulk to pull that off. With baker gone, and the nonexistant Franks gone, I'd think we'd need something. But, I'm not saying burn your number 1 on him. In fact, I do think we will trade down and try to pick up more picks later in the draft.

[frogstomp]

Exactly. I am not at all against drafting a TE, we do need one.

I'm just horribly against drafting one in the first. And unless Pettigrew falls to us in the second, I don't want one there or in the third, either.

I still want Maclin so badly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzrltr66LqI

Then DHB... Then Jackson. Then trade down. Then Frogstomp.

[IrishJets39]

No your Not Nuts it wouldn't be bad pick in fact this would be a smart pick this guy is a good blocker as well a good TE. But Jets need a WR mostly. This is a good year to taked a WR's Heyward bey I'm liking. Carbtree and Maclin will be gone

[JimJones79]

The best thing the Jets could do on draft day is trade DOWN! Swap picks with The Giants, allow them to take the Wr they like and take back a combination of the 29th pick and a 2nd or 29th plus a 3rd & 4th.
Forget moving up for anybody. Sit tight and take a Wr or drop back

[frogstomp]

The best thing the Jets could do on draft day is trade DOWN! Swap picks with The Giants, allow them to take the Wr they like and take back a combination of the 29th pick and a 2nd or 29th plus a 3rd & 4th.
Forget moving up for anybody. Sit tight and take a Wr or drop back

If the Giants trade for Braylon Edwards they won't want to trade with us. They may not want to trade with us regardless, as they may want Kenny Britt, who would fall to them at their current pick.

[DomUK]

The sole reason for drafting Pettigrew would be to give us a big blocking TE - right?
Well we've alreasy got one, Kareem Brown is switching from DE to TE.

Randy Lange
People who've been around the Jets the past few years may still do a double-take when they see Kareem Brown.

There's the size — he looks like a mini-me version of the defensive lineman listed as 6'4" and 295 pounds since he arrived off waivers from the Patriots in late November 2007.

And there's the number — similar to his weight, he's shed more than half of his old No. 98, wearing No. 45 these days.

So is Brown in the running to become the Jets' opening-day starter at tight end?

"No, I'm not. Dustin Keller is the starting tight end on this team," he said with a smile during last week's veteran minicamp. "But the transition is going pretty good. The only thing was learning the offensive playbook, but that's been going pretty well, and getting the timing down with the quarterbacks."

We've heard of projections and transitions before, but is it possible that this career defensive lineman out of Miami (Norland High and "the U") can be the Jets' next big-blocking, sometimes-receiving TE behind and alongside Keller?

Don't scoff just yet. Even though he was Norland's defensive MVP as a D-lineman and had 11 sacks as a UM senior, second-most for a DT in Hurricanes history, Brown has always had some versatility in his game.

"I played tight end and linebacker, I played everything, in high school, but high school don't really count," he said. "At Miami we ran a whole bunch of different packages that allowed people to utilize their talents. I'm used to moving around and stuff like that in space, and I'm a pretty good athlete. So I was just happy they gave me a chance to help the team in as many ways as I can."

Brown said he was told he'd be making the transition to tight end (not to mention some linebacker work) "last week," although we suspect Jenny Craig doesn't have a lose-25-pounds-in-seven-days plan to help in such matters. Maybe it was the Rex regimen that got the weight off.

"When the bossman asks me to do something," he said, "I gotta do it."

"Bossman" Rex Ryan said the transition from his perspective has been going fine.

"Poor guy goes to every offensive meeting and every defensive meeting, but he’s got that kind of ability," the head coach said. "I checked with [TE coach] Mike Devlin and he said Kareem is doing outstanding as a tight end and that speaks volume of that young man."

Many times, Ryan said, at the back end of the gameday 45-man roster, "you need to have a guy that can 'fix it.' whether it’s a tight end, an outside linebacker, a defensive end. Last year we had a young man that we tried to do that with in Baltimore, Edgar Jones, and if you watched tape of the AFC Championship Game and even before that against Tennessee, he might have played half the game. It wasn’t planned that way, but we needed him.

"With Kareem, he has a great attitude. He just wants to help the football team. He is unselfish. It’s tough, he's got to learn a lot of different things, but he has that kind of talent."

No. 45 wasn't being hidden at the recently concluded minicamp. He was in some patterns and made some nice catches. He also dropped a few and made some athletic receptions that didn't have to be so spectacular if only he'd put the ball away first instead of juggling it.

But even at his slightly deflated size, he's still plenty big to block the kinds of players he used to be. And wouldn't it be a great story if Brown turns into the Jets' next "fantastic four"? After all, the Pats drafted him in the fourth round of the 2007 draft, 127th overall.

One thing's for sure. Brown prefers Ryan's "Madonna" approach to the Mangini method of practice that he experienced in full last season.

"Practice was more uptight last year. It wasn't bad but it wasn't loose," he said. "I think the fun approach is the better approach, because what athletes want, we want to have fun. It's in the nature of the game, that's how we were born and raised in the game, so obviously we would like to continue to play like that."

The Jets will continue to sift through the TEs available as free agents and in the draft, but if a position change enhances the fun factor for a guy who's already here such as Kareem Brown, so much the better.
Uptight? Not Brown As He Shifts from DL to TE (http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/articles/show/2938-uptight-not-brown-as-he-shifts-from-dl-to-te)

[The Green Titan]

The sole reason for drafting Pettigrew would be to give us a big blocking TE - right?
Well we've alreasy got one, Kareem Brown is switching from DE to TE.


Yea, this kind of threw a wrench in my theory. Unless it's a smokescreen :-)
But it's probably not!

[DomUK]

Yea, this kind of threw a wrench in my theory. Unless it's a smokescreen :-)
But it's probably not!

i hope they pick Jackson :)
that would mean i was right all along mwhahaha!

[amuck57]

if by some miracle stafford is there TAKE HIM.
if not, moreno or jackson would be my pick.:D

that being said i would still like to trade out of the first round and get more picks.:D:D

[The Green Titan]

For those of you that think I'm way off base and clueless because I'm suggesting our first pick will be Brandon Pettigrew, that belief is beginning to gain momentum in the sports world. Here's a new article by Dave Hutchinson of the Star Ledger this morning.

New York Jets eye Oklahoma State tight end Brandon Pettigrew

by Dave Hutchinson (dhutchinson@starledger.com)/The Star-Ledger Tuesday April 21, 2009, 9:58 AM


http://blog.nj.com/jets_impact/2009/04/large_brandon-pettigrew421.jpg

Christopher Hanewinckel/US Presswire: Some believe that the Jets are honing in on selecting tight end Brandon Pettigrew, a strong blocker with soft hands, with their first pick in this weekend's NFL Draft.
Just spoke to my buddy Gil Brandt, the NFL draft whiz and former vice president of player personnel with the Cowboys, and he told me that the No. 17 slot is too high for the Jets to select a tight end, namely Brandon Pettigrew.
So here's one scenario that I think may play out when the Jets are on the clock this Saturday:
I can see the Jets, who have six picks, trading down a few spots to pick up an extra pick and then nabbing Pettigrew later in the first round. That way, they save money (the higher the pick the more you pay) and get the additional pick.
A blocking tight end is the Jets' most glaring need -- they have nobody -- and Pettigrew would fill the bill. At 6-foot-6, 260 pounds, he's the most complete tight end in the draft. He's a devastating blocker and has excellent hands. He also plays with attitude, an attribute that won't be lost on new coach Rex Ryan.
And I'm hearing that he's a good kid despite his arrest for felony assault and battery on a police officer in January 2008 when a fight broke out at a party. He allegedly pushed a police officer while refusing to leave the scene. He pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault and battery.
"It was a one-time incident," one of my draft insiders who has done his homework on Pettigrew assured me. It's the only blemish on Pettigrew's resume.
If you remember, I tagged Pettigrew last month as the guy who was high on the Jets' wish list. Despite all the talk about a wide receiver and quarterback, Pettigrew is my guy and I standing by him -- for now.
P.S. -- The Jets brought in North Carolina TE Richard Quinn for a visit and could opt for him if they don't get Pettigrew. Quinn is regarded as the best pure blocking tight end in the draft.
I know, I know, I'm back pedaling already.

[DomUK]

For those of you that think I'm way off base and clueless because I'm suggesting our first pick will be Brandon Pettigrew, that belief is beginning to gain momentum in the sports world. Here's a new article by Dave Hutchinson of the Star Ledger this morning.

New York Jets eye Oklahoma State tight end Brandon Pettigrew

by Dave Hutchinson (dhutchinson@starledger.com)/The Star-Ledger Tuesday April 21, 2009, 9:58 AM


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Christopher Hanewinckel/US Presswire: Some believe that the Jets are honing in on selecting tight end Brandon Pettigrew, a strong blocker with soft hands, with their first pick in this weekend's NFL Draft.
Just spoke to my buddy Gil Brandt, the NFL draft whiz and former vice president of player personnel with the Cowboys, and he told me that the No. 17 slot is too high for the Jets to select a tight end, namely Brandon Pettigrew.
So here's one scenario that I think may play out when the Jets are on the clock this Saturday:
I can see the Jets, who have six picks, trading down a few spots to pick up an extra pick and then nabbing Pettigrew later in the first round. That way, they save money (the higher the pick the more you pay) and get the additional pick.
A blocking tight end is the Jets' most glaring need -- they have nobody -- and Pettigrew would fill the bill. At 6-foot-6, 260 pounds, he's the most complete tight end in the draft. He's a devastating blocker and has excellent hands. He also plays with attitude, an attribute that won't be lost on new coach Rex Ryan.
And I'm hearing that he's a good kid despite his arrest for felony assault and battery on a police officer in January 2008 when a fight broke out at a party. He allegedly pushed a police officer while refusing to leave the scene. He pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault and battery.
"It was a one-time incident," one of my draft insiders who has done his homework on Pettigrew assured me. It's the only blemish on Pettigrew's resume.
If you remember, I tagged Pettigrew last month as the guy who was high on the Jets' wish list. Despite all the talk about a wide receiver and quarterback, Pettigrew is my guy and I standing by him -- for now.
P.S. -- The Jets brought in North Carolina TE Richard Quinn for a visit and could opt for him if they don't get Pettigrew. Quinn is regarded as the best pure blocking tight end in the draft.
I know, I know, I'm back pedaling already.

i can understand and appreciate every single reason for picking Pettigrew - hes a great player and would fill a pretty important position but i just think we have other positions that need to be addressed before TE such as DE and WR.

[The Green Titan]

I can understand and appreciate every single reason for picking Pettigrew - hes a great player and would fill a pretty important position but i just think we have other positions that need to be addressed before TE such as DE and WR.

Sorry Dom but here's another one. Rich Cimini of the Daily News is also predicting that the Jets go with Pettigrew, as per his mock draft below. As with Dave Hutchinson of the Star Ledger, he is a Jets beat reporter. Erik Boland of Newsday doesn't have Pettigrew as his pick but agreed that there is a possibility that the Jets take him. Someone (you all know who) said I was clueless about football for suggesting that Pettigrew would be our guy. I guess if I am then I'm in good company because like Cimini and Hutchinson said, it would be a smart move to trade down, get a TE of this caliber and get a couple of more picks out of the process. Not to mention the Jets have done very well over the years with second and third selections so I don't mind trading down.


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Our Half-Mock Draft, Take 1
April 21, 2009

Let's call this a half-mock, version 1.0. We'll stop at the Jets (No. 17), leaving the rest to your imagination. And to quote Bill Parcells, I reserve the right to change my mind.

1. Detroit -- QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia
Comment: Some scouts aren't convinced he's the real deal. For $40 mil in guarantees (guessing), he'd better be.
2. St. Louis -- OT Jason Smith, Baylor
Comment: Spags gets a replacement for Orlando Pace.
3. Kansas City -- DE Tyson Jackson, LSU
Comment: Everyone has LB Aaron Curry going here, but there's no way Pioli picks a linebacker who doesn't rush the passer.
4. Seattle -- WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Comment: Sorry, I'm not buying all the chatter about QB Mark Sanchez in this spot.
5. Cleveland -- CB Michael Jenkins, Ohio State
Comment: Mangini likes corners and he likes guys from Ohio State (see Vernon Gholston and Anthony Schlegel).
6. Cincinnati -- LT Eugene Monroe, Virginia
Comment: Much-needed protection for Carson Palmer.
7. Oakland -- WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland
Comment: Speed, speed, speed. It rocks Al Davis' world.
8. Washington (trade with Jacksonville) -- QB Mark Sanchez, USC
Comment: Danny Boy is desperate to replace Jason Campbell.
9. Green Bay -- DT B.J. Raji, BC
Comment: A giant man to plug a giant hole.
10. San Francisco -- LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
Comment: The Niners are elated. They can't believe Curry lasted this long.
11. Buffalo -- OT Andre Smith, Alabama
Comment: A replacement for Jason Peters.
12. Denver -- LB/DE Brian Orakpo, Texas
Comment: Josh (Doogie Howser) McDaniels can live with Kyle Orton at QB. He needs help on defense.
13. Jacksonville (trade with Washington) -- WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Comment: There's booing in the Jets' war room. They really wanted Maclin.
14. New Orleans -- RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
Comment: A replacement for Deuce McAllister.
15. Houston -- LB Brian Cushing, USC
Comment: They need defense. Don't we say that every year?
16. San Diego -- OLB Connor Barwin, Cincinnati
Comment: Shawne Merriman insurance.
17. Jets -- TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State
Comment: He fills a need, but I can see the Jets trading down a few spots, then making a bid for Cards WR Anquan Boldin or settling for North Carolina WR Hakeem Nicks.

[lodi253]

yeah Pettigrew looks like a good option. the trouble is where they pick. anything can happen by the time they get to 17. too expensive to move up to get crabtree. but maclin is the only receiver i would move up to get. someone said DHB is like J-Co on another post, which is stupid, because DHB can burn J-Co with his hands tied behind his back.

i wouldn't even move up to get sanchez. the Jets should just draft Graham Harrell later on if they want another QB. let Clemens get a shot at starting. hey he was rated just as high as Cutler when they were drafted a few years ago.

Britt could also be a possibility with the other receivers gone. but Pettigrew looks legit. he's 6'5" , can block, can catch. the jets will be a running team & having a formation of Keller & Pettigrew out there with their tailbacks would be very successful. there' no way they can get one of the top defensive guys like Orakpo, who i think would be a perfect fit here. again just too expensive to move up. If Raji were to fall to them somehow, i think Ryan would draft him though, even with Big Jenks on the roster. If only Maualuga played OLB instead of ILB.

Pettigrew can also help Keller on how to block properly. or they can just move Keller off the TE depth chart & make him a WR if they get Pettigrew. i like the idea though.

[lodi253]

Cimini really thinks Curry will fall that much?? What about Bruschi & Vrabel, those guys hardly rushed the QB. Curry will go to KC at 3. a lot of good linebackers in this draft, but most are ILB's. woul dbe nice if we can get Animal's son, james laurinitis on the Jets. looks like he could be a good player, especially in ryan's all out system. Let Gholston play RE where he's more comfortable & put Laurinitis on the outside.

[DomUK]

Let Gholston play RE where he's more comfortable & put Laurinitis on the outside.

Not gonna happen
he's a 4-3 DE - that would usually transfer into a 3-4 OLB which is the transition he is TRYING to make but as you can see he has a little trouble making the switch

[DennyCrane]

Not gonna happen
he's a 4-3 DE - that would usually transfer into a 3-4 OLB which is the transition he is TRYING to make but as you can see he has a little trouble making the switch
Has anyone heard where Ryan wants him to play this season?
De or OLB?

[tiernster]

Please do not draft Harvin, he is too small for full NFL season, we already had Santana moss and he was ok when healthy but disappeared with physical defenses. Also forget Heyward-Bey. Remeber Lam Jones? all speed but no production. If he can't produce in college he won't in the pro's. The QB's that are listed are not worth a first round pick. Nothing special about them. I think the jets might be able to trade down a few spots to get more later round picks. Kenny Britt would be a great pick late 1st round or very early second.

Knowshon Moreno is overrated. He is not as good as Reggie Bush coming out of college ( and look how good Reggie Bush turned out) and he ran a 4.6 (SLOW). So many good RB's can be had in later rounds it would be a waste to draft Moreno.

Don't know much about the TE from oklahoma St. but i am fearful of a TE in 1st rd with JETS. I get flashbacks of ( johnny mitchel, kyle brady & anthony becht)

[The Green Titan]

With the Atlanta Falcons acquiring Tony Gonzalez from the KC Chiefs today, it means they won't be going after a TE in the draft, as they were expected to do for Pettigrew. This once again reinforces the possibility of the Jets drafting down for more picks and would allow them to get a WR and a TE in the bottom of the first and early in the second round, with out affecting their other picks. In my opinion, certain things are falling in place to allow Tanny to come out smiling and keep the rest of you (water at the mouth Wide Receiver babies), and me (Go Get Pettigrew cause he's the man) HAPPY :-)

[MeanGreen]

As Site DC, I'd say we draft Tyson Jackson. A future replacement for Sean Ellis who is on his way out.

[The Green Titan]

As Site DC, I'd say we draft Tyson Jackson. A future replacement for Sean Ellis who is on his way out.

It's about time you started recognizing your responsibilities as DC on here. I thought you'd forgotten.

[MeanGreen]

It's the off-season, i thought camp was voluntary. lol :D